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Hundreds forced to dress according to sharia
Published on 28 January 2010 01:38
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Hundreds of residents considered to be wearing unacceptable clothing according to sharia regulations, were temporarily detained during an operation at the busy Mesra Darussalam traffic crossing in Banda Aceh, Aceh Nanggroe Darussalam, on Tuesday afternoon.
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Sharia laws, that is the worst bit of islam unfortunately. There is nothing wrong with islam itself but sharia law is something dating back to the middle ages....
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On 29-01-2010 10:05 Belanda70 wrote: There is nothing wrong with islam itself but sharia law is something dating back to the middle ages....
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Islam is totally wrong. The whole religion is dating back to the middle ages without any reform and reformation during ages. Same is the catholic church and the jewish religion....completely out of time. I won't say that everything is okay with protestantism but at least this sect or religion rose from a reformation, an enlightenment and resistance/protests against the old-fashioned and convential way of thinking of the catholic church. Islam neither wants - and will never ever allow and tolerate such a movement within their own ranks.
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And yes, the way of Sharia (not the whole Sharia is negative) which is practiced in the Serambi of Mekka of Indonesia, is - again - showing the medieval structure of this religion.
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Just wondering.
I am western woman, easily spotted from a distance; blond hair, green eyes, no jilbab but wearing (decent) western/normal clothes.
Anyone here any idea what about reaction and/or action. Because, sharia is supposed to be the islamic law, ie for muslims. I am not a muslim. Then again, what about reaction/action when traveling with a male Indonesian?
Anne Mieke
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AM, they don't understand that. Islamic law for muslims but also applicable to non-moslims. You think they understand the difference??? No way.
Every month I hear the experiences and stories from the daughter of an Indonesian colleague who is active and working on an aid project in Aceh for already more then 3 years. She's moslim (but very moderate), she's indo (mixed blood) and raised up in Indonesia. It's just because it is her job and believes in what she's doing, otherwise she would already left the whole situation.
Because she's indo she is a non-moslim in the eyes of the primitive inhabitants and authorities of Aceh and also treated in that way. She is completely subject to the Shariah because the inhabitants of Aceh don't understand the difference and significance of a special law for Muslims which is not applicable to non-Muslims.
Raised up in Java, in more then 30 years she never heard so many slanted and defamatory remarks as the 3 years in Aceh. Serambi of Mekka (Veranda of Mekka).....hahaha: "the gateway to hell" is a more appropiate name.
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On 29-01-2010 18:52 Anne Mieke wrote: Then again, what about reaction/action when traveling with a male Indonesian?
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In their eyes, you're automatically and immediately a whore and an infidel ( kafir ) who's going to have an adverse impact on a fellow Moslim (whether this Indonesian man is actually Moslim or not; simplistic in their view, every Indonesian = Muslim) and you will be treated so.
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Okey, again I am just wondering. I will let you know the experience within 4 month...
I was very clos last month but couldn't travel into the interior (Kutacane to Takengon) because of the bad weather, terrible roadconditions, landslides, mud and so on.
Opions by Indonesians, ie Sumatrans (muslim, christian or chinese) about traveling into Aceh are various. In fact most of them only warned me for not bringing alcohol into Aceh.
We will see.
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Ku menanti seorang kekasih, yang tercantik yang datang di hari ini (Iwan Fals)-------------------------avatar: Pasir Panjang, pulau Kei, Maluku
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I like to hear from you AM...... But still I value more the opinion of someone who was born in the country and lives all his life already here. Apart from that she's not on a holiday but really works in Aceh.
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On 29-01-2010 18:52 Anne Mieke wrote:
.Then again, what about reaction/action when traveling with a male Indonesian?
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Without " boterbriefje" ?
Not done.
Sleeping in the same room ?
Haram .
You can get trouble according to Indonesian law .
Traveling without Surat Nikah .( K.H.U.P ex B.W)
I am traveling in Indonesia since 1979 with my bule wife , no one asked my surat nikah , but I have always it with me , in case of.
Sorry for my Tarzan English
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On 30-01-2010 08:53 Yogya-Bali wrote:
I like to hear from you AM...... But still I value more the opinion of someone who was born in the country and lives all his life already here. Apart from that she's not on a holiday but really works in Aceh.
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 It's because of the experience right? Not because of the opion. I am just wondering if I can travel without any difficulties.
And maybe yes I will be on a holiday at that time but my holiday won't be that long anymore and within one year I will (but not work) in Indonesia.
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Ku menanti seorang kekasih, yang tercantik yang datang di hari ini (Iwan Fals)-------------------------avatar: Pasir Panjang, pulau Kei, Maluku
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On 30-01-2010 08:53 Surya Atmadja wrote:
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Without " boterbriefje" ?
Not done.
Sleeping in the same room ?
Haram .
You can get trouble according to Indonesian law .
Traveling without Surat Nikah .( K.H.U.P ex B.W)
I am traveling in Indonesia since 1979 with my bule wife , no one asked my surat nikah , but I have always it with me , in case of.
Sorry for my Tarzan English
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SA, when was the last time you were in Aceh?
I never had to show a surat nikah (also in times when I had one)
Oh yes these days (with the focus on these because some years ago this was not the issue) in many hotels are displays like "you are not allowed to bring a female in to your room apart from your own wife" But they never say anything about bringing another male apart from your own husband...... 
Then again, this "law" seems to be on certain islands/places. It was only in Sumatera (west, north) I saw this kind of "information" at the receptiondesk. In the last few years when traveling into Sulawesi, Lombok, Flores, Sumba, Timor, islands of Maluku even Java I never ever saw such a thing like this. And I have slept in dozens of hotels.
I suppose in Aceh they will have these kinds of displays as well.
Trouble with Indonesian law? What about all the travelers? They are not traveling with their surat nikah right?
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Ku menanti seorang kekasih, yang tercantik yang datang di hari ini (Iwan Fals)-------------------------avatar: Pasir Panjang, pulau Kei, Maluku
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On 30-01-2010 09:25 Anne Mieke wrote:
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SA, when was the last time you were in Aceh?
Trouble with Indonesian law? What about all the travelers? They are not traveling with their surat nikah right?
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Never in Aceh , there are more and better places for a tourist like me.
If I want to see an orang utan , I can go to Artis Amsterdam.
If you are "caught" in a hotel room with an Moslim man by the Sharia Police , you can get trouble.Not only the local man.
Make a bet ?
Law is Law .
Not only Sharia but also Indonesian Law .
S enin, 12 Maret 2007 | 1909 WIB
TEMPO Interaktif, JakartaKepolisian Sektor Tanah Abang menjaring 17 pasangan atau 34 orang pria dan wanita yang bukan pasangan suami istri (pasutri) di empat hotel melati di kawasan Tanah Abang, Senin (12/3).
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I don't know but I think "it depends on the weather"
Yeah, about the bet? Like I said, I have slept in many many Indonesian hotels, alone, with friends, men, women, western, Indonesia etc. Never came across any trouble, not even a simple question.
I am not arguing about the law, whether it's Sharia or Indonesian. I am just telling my experiences and waiting for experiences from other people (travelers, expats, citizens, whatever). And, about the thing that circumstances obviously vary from place to place (part of) island to island.
That's why I was asking when you have been to Aceh (not if this a better place or not, as opions about this vary as well, apart from the fact that Aceh must be a beautiful part of Sumatera).
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Ku menanti seorang kekasih, yang tercantik yang datang di hari ini (Iwan Fals)-------------------------avatar: Pasir Panjang, pulau Kei, Maluku
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