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Jeroen
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Police seek suspects in local porn film

The story on itself is funny, since they seem to have launched a full-scale investigation, but the main point was that the maximum penalty was 18 months in prison and Rp. 4,500 fine .

Hehe... that's the problem with inflation if you don't keep the laws updated. Even the VCD is more expensife to buy. Emoticon: Puh! (according to the story, because I don't buy it of course. )

Yerun



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Yerun,

Maybe the Rp.4,500 notation is Rp.4,500 juta.
My wife is also ofen shortening the Indonesian amounts with quotations like "its only 500" meaning Rp. 500.000.

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I was thinking the same, but after checking some other news messages, I found out that they always write the full amount, or at least '4,5 m', but that wasn't this time.



diederick
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New girlfriend, Jeroen? She looks sweet.



Jeroen
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On 02-09-2004 15:55 diederick wrote:
New girlfriend, Jeroen? She looks sweet.


I sold the other one again Emoticon: Wink No, it's just some picture I found on the internet, just as the previous one.



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So it serves them wright porn just discust's me
it's perverded and sick they should all be in prisond

18 moth and Rp. 4,500 fine thats to liniant they should give
8yrs and 105 lashes for perversion
and breaking moral laws

and yeah i beleef in fycical punishments



diederick
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Lashes? With a whip? Maybe they would like that very much! You believe in physical punishments? Speaking about perversions....



budowono1
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no like deheading than what aboud that ore shock therapy depanding on the crime it is as Chairman Mao describt the Social punishment the the condempt so it is not pervesion bt justice as in real punishment death if nesacary



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You mean beheading, like your friends in Irak are doing now from time to time (Al Jahzeera seems to have a perverted pleasure to broadcast this gore movies). Beheading was in the medieval times a special privilige for noble people (common people were hanged). So you want to give priviliges to petty criminals. Oh, oh Budowono.
Chairman Mao is already long dead. He gave a lot of social punishment to 1000's of women who had to share his bed and submit to his perverted sexual plays. Did you read his biography?



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Did you read his biography? [/quote]

actualy i did and i also red his quotas and i must agree with his political opinion n ot his personal life.

wich state :

Linionsey to those who Confess
Safearaty to those who Resist
Redemption to those who gain welth.

i know his quotas does also his biograph but im not inrested in his persona life but his word.

the Deheading idea is baced on Soetomo's Way of punishment and Hirohito's Justice
even Kapten Patimura deaheded .

= edit: discrimination removed =



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In what kind of language did you read his biography?
Not to boost on my english but is is leanancy, safety, wealth.
In my book; fine ideas but who is the person behind it. Did you know Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian and a lover of dogs, still he killed millions of people. Mao was in fact a degenerated sex-addict, who also killed millions. You are stlll agreeing with the principles of the Cultural Revolution?
Pattimura was not beheaded but hanged. His body was exposed for a long time in a cage on the seaside.
Indeed, on Hirohito's orders a lot of Dutch (but even more Indonesians) were beheaded. Without any form of normal justice, i have to add.
Did you ever read "crime and punishment" by Dostojevski by change?




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I red that Biography in Mandarin ok I know what Mao ze Dong whas for kind of person he was but he was a great strategic genious

and no actualy never heared of Dostojevski but i red aboud Karl Marx.
i didn't say that Patimura was deheaded he was the one that did it to his enamies that was why he always had his big knife .

The Indonesian whom lost there heads by japan where counter revolutionairies and served the kolony.

So in amather of fact i do know Sejarah for it was my General at UGM
but what has Hitler to do with this ?? that is totaly difrent and inrelevant



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Can I make a very nasty comment? You don't know nothing of Sejarah or the UGM teaches something with is far away from any historical value. And, to be frank, I would not be amazed knowing the state of historical research here in Indonesia.
Hitler has everything to do with this. He was also seen as a great strategic genious. But the fact is, Budowono, with all these strategic genious people, it are the normal people who suffer the consequences, be it in Germany, Europe, or China. Every killed person, offered to the bench of political ambition or ideology, rightfully or wrongfully has a family, children, friends. The lesson is - if i may say-; be very careful with ideologies, can you look into the eyes of the victims or their relatives and say to them it is all for a good cause? That is one of the lessons of history I learned, anyway.



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yes i know but Hitler is Europe
i red his book Mein kampf and his sttrategi he made to many mistakes that led to his defeat he could have won if he didn't dispach Rommel en drew back the tanks from the Normandy koast and set them to the front if he din't do that he would never have lost D-Day i know every thing aboud him but europe is not my teritory im specialiced in South East Asia Sejarah

I lurned that victoms where for the cause there secravice was necasery so we can live in freedom
so yeah i have consetered there's no revolution with out victoms some times to save the mass we must sacravice the induvidual that is what Komité leader Lin Biao thought us in his words i show my deepestrespects to those whom secraviced them for the cause but it had to happen



diederick
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Did you read Mein Kamp in Mandarin? For the rest the famous remark " I rest my case, your honour"



budowono1
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no i red it in jerman i was speek
Indonesia.Melayu.Cantonees.Mandarin.Tagalog.Nederlans.Deuch.
English
these are 8 lenguages i geus these are more than u can speek or is it ?



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Quite frankly, I don't know what you can speak, but your writing of German and English is quite incorrect (you wouldn't pass a Toefl test). I don' t say anything of your Dutch because I admire foreigners at least to try.
I myself can speak and write: dutch, german, english, french,latin, portuguese, spanish and italian and I have some knowledge - although limited of bahasa indonesia, and some as you would say -dialects- spoken in the Indonesian archipelago. Enough?



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well u have knoledge in the western lenguages i in Eastern so mijn nederlans niet perfect ik woon pas 8 maanden hier but most people cant even speak so fast and much as i in such a short time so yes i consiter my dutch quite good



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That is the problem. You consider everything of yourselves quite good. But it isn't. Some more self-critic (a term of your big example Mao) would do you very good. Again, i praise your endeavours in the Dutch language, keep on the good work. But don't forget your English writing. Stop visiting chat-channels and learn to write some proper English (not the oral version you are writing)



Jeroen
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So what about porn movies shot in Bandung?



budowono1
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oh my prenounciation and oral comunication is ok but the gramer is the problem cause your gramatic is so difrent than ours



Jeroen
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hmm.. maybe there can be some 'oral communication' in porn movies as well. Emoticon: Wink



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haha Jeroen Emoticon: Smile Emoticon: Smile Emoticon: Smile
you're trying so hard to stay on-topic...
very funny..
Emoticon: Smile Emoticon: Smile



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On 06-09-2004 20:08 diederick wrote:
Quite frankly, I dont know what you can speak, but your writing of German and English is quite incorrect (you wouldnt pass a Toefl test). I don t say anything of your Dutch because I admire foreigners at least to try.
I myself can speak and write: dutch, german, english, french,latin, portuguese, spanish and italian and I have some knowledge - although limited of bahasa indonesia, and some as you would say -dialects- spoken in the Indonesian archipelago. Enough?



>Hi deiderick,
>looks to me that you took "somebody's" bite (fishing bite)
>You are in BIG.. BIG TROUBLE ..MISTER!.....(I can tell....)
>Kasihan deiderick....



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What the hell is wrong with you? Don't tell us about morals and values when you just visualised an image of a hideous murder for us - totally out of context and totally unprovoked - and continued to preach ideologies you copied from someone else. Even more disturbing than the fact that you turned a forum over petty porno fines into murder instructions, is how your little beheading fantasy turned into a personal ego trip. Gross... get a life and a sense of humanity. Maybe I should translate that into 8 different languages so it's a little easier to understand. Disgusting....




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