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Anyone who is willing to give his/her view on this item? It's not hard to choose from two candidates, as there are no others left.
And what if you had to choose because someone pointed a gun to your head, what would you do?
I heard some pretty friendly stories about Yudhoyono, but it's easy to explain all this. He's the fresh candidate and Mega has done her five years with reaching nothing. Same as Dutch politics.. new cabinet and soon everyone is dissatisfied because they can't do any good. (Doh, it's economy, not the current government). I think it's the same with Megawati. Maybe she wants to, but she doesn't have enough [money, power] to do so..
So for me... let Yudhoyono have a try, maybe he can do something good for the country we all love, or hate to love, or love to hate.
Yerun
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Slightly older, hopefully wiser, absolutely prettier
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i would choose a real person ,but they are hard to find...!!!!
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like to live in ID,but it takes a while to get there
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On 01-09-2004 09:03 reuveul wrote:
i would choose a real person ,but they are hard to find...!!!!
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*pointing a gun to your head* "choose between Mega or SBY NOW!" 
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hihi, than i would say , sby
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like to live in ID,but it takes a while to get there
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Yudhoyono!
I think Indonesia needs a strong disciplined leader
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Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm.
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I think SBY should be the best leader of Indonesia.
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the one who supports the police 
even though the police might not be doing that much its still better then getting the army on the street again imho
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WIRANTO i don't trust yudhoryono.
1st he was Golkar than he was a sworn allie with Ibu-Mega now he turned agaynst her think what he would do when he's precident ?
Loyalty is importand it means you stick with your partai good or bad ?
WIRANTO stood by GOLKAR good Times and bad thats Loyalty
yudhoryono is an arogant fool he's not loyal to his partai so why would he be loyal to the people .....?
as asoldier he should know that Loyalty is importand and stick with your partai till death
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Budo,
I think you missed the point of general elections here. The Indonesian people voted for Mega & SBY for the final round. Other candidates are not competing anymore.
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budowono reminds me of the dazed guy in the movie, "Blast from The Past." 
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Slightly older, hopefully wiser, absolutely prettier
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speaking of loyalty, in my opinion sby has proven that he is not a yes-man nor an opportunist. he dares to leave the coveted post in mega's cabinet because they couldnt go along well anymore, politically speaking.
(would love to say more, but i am quite busy with the school siege in russia, very heartbreaking.. some people still believe in using terrorism means to reach political aims..gosh
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Slightly older, hopefully wiser, absolutely prettier
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I have nothing against Megawati but her husband is an awfull guy with a lot of influence. I have also always the impression that Mega - if you would ask her- prefers to cook a nice dinner for her family then to preside cabinetmeetings.
SBY is a ex-general with some dark spots in his past. He looks professional. His running mate Kalla has also dark spots (builded a business-empire on seized Indo-Chinese property). But It is always good to give people a second chance. One of the best presidents in the history of the USA was also a former general: Dwight Eisenhower.
So, SBY on one condition; he is the last president with a military background.
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On 03-09-2004 12:15 budowono1 wrote:
WIRANTO i dont trust yudhoryono.
1st he was Golkar than he was a sworn allie with Ibu-Mega now he turned agaynst her think what he would do when hes precident ?
Loyalty is importand it means you stick with your partai good or bad ?
WIRANTO stood by GOLKAR good Times and bad thats Loyalty
yudhoryono is an arogant fool hes not loyal to his partai so why would he be loyal to the people .....?
as asoldier he should know that Loyalty is importand and stick with your partai till death
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Yeah.... I vote Wiranto for Budowono's country (whatever it is but Indonesia) and also Yoris as his vice president......hehehehe....eat that crap Budo.... 
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im serious Wiranto can Restore Indonesia glory.
= edit: sexist remark removed =
and Yodhoryono i don't trust a guy who doesn't show loyalty to his partai what kind of soldier is he..........!!!
so Wiranto is a true leader a true Soldier loyal and brave like a real Indonesia soldier seposed to be
and yoris is a fool a arogant diplomat a country can not be rulled by diplomasi by by perjuangan and Power
(POWER & DICIPLINE) the INDONESIA people that seports the new goverment should all be rehabilitated in camps till there jeneraly renewed to the way a Indonesia citysan should be
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 budowono
I'm probably not the only one who dislike your statements, against women, homosexuals and so on...
quotes: "weak like woman"-"rehabilitated in camps "???!!
is that what your learn at the military academy?
you should be ashame, so disgusting
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yes that is what i lurn at akademi.
but it should be Ibu-Mega who should be a shame
do you really think that people vote for her cause she so good or cause she woman ???
it is cause of the fact that she wares the Name of her Father
The legiondairy Achmad Soekarno that is the only reason of her sucses if she was a ordinairy woman she would have made as far as perhaps just minister but never highier maybe sexis but reality
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Why has Megawati to be shamed of? Because she's a women? if you think so, please start your own forum, as I told you before. your stories from the "akademi" have NOTHING to do with reality.. o ya, I suggest you keep it quiet from now.
Yerun
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no that is not what i sayd
but i wont explayn
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Budowono,
I have some good contacts at the KMA. Would you mind if i contact them referring to you?
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why ....! would u do that huh ...?
they have no controll over me Indonesia Atache Militer
has controll over us
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budowono; well well....interesting to read what you learn at the KMA haha...
I'm a pacifist and refused to serve in the army 18 years ago....huhm probably that's the reason we have other opinions...anyway this was my last reply towards you...good luck at the academy
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i geus ur wright aboud that it is natural that people have difrent opinion it is human if not it would be a communist system would it ?
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On 06-09-2004 19:18 budowono1 wrote:
why ....! would u do that huh ...?
they have no controll over me Indonesia Atache Militer
has controll over us
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Off course I would do that, if push comes to shove. I guess even the Indonesian military attache is interested in your secret ambtions. I am very dissapointed in the KMA i must say. Not finding out your strange political and philosophical ideas. I will be in the Netherlands quite soon, maybe i will visit the KMA and we can speak person to person.
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maybe but do you have clearance to KMA i know i do as you know not any one can enter just like that
and there's your mistake i never share my political ambition with my Instructer not even with my superiors from Indonesia.
or as we say here (pas as ik gewonnen heb komt mijn mening naar voor) cause it is the savest way not to get killed
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