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Ruben
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(Edited) Posted @ 16-11-2008 14:02

I think Lion Air could be considered as one of the safest airlines in Indonesia as it will begin to operate within the Australian domestic market as of January 2009.

http://www.news.com.au/courier(...)3034781-3102,00.html



oyibo
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Posted @ 16-11-2008 15:05

Even Lion Air doesn't hesitate to use 20 year old MD90's.
Maybe well maintainded but a company sending it's passengers in plains like that?

Government rule should be forcing airlines stop using aircrafts like that.

I saw a pregnant woman in line who had to present papers of beeing fit to fly.
Sending her into a a 20 year old aircraft.

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HansvdB
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Posted @ 16-11-2008 15:26


On 16-11-2008 15:05 oyibo wrote:
Even Lion Air doesn't hesitate to use 20 year old MD90's.


As far as I know, there's nothing wrong with using 20yo planes. What matters is maintenance, and when I checked word in a up-to-date IndonesianEnglish dictionary, it wasn't there. But I think and hope Indonesia learned its lessons. And no, I'm not kidding, I do believe it, at least in this respect.



oyibo
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(Moderated) Posted @ 16-11-2008 15:27

To make it more exiting.

Incident report on Lion Air this case.
On this specific flight, row 1.
One of the windowblinds was down prior to departure. Once airborne, the blind openend found the window to be Ducktaped !!!. Structural damage visible from the inside. The majority of the passengers experienced ear problems, during take off and landing.
Funny?

The crew on this plane was not even informed on the problems on this aircraft.
Prior to landing on Batam the stewardess asked the passengers siiting in row one to lift the windowblind. She got the surprise of her life ! Emoticon: Party!




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oyibo
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Posted @ 16-11-2008 15:33

I hope Hans this gives you a bright new meaning of maintenance in Indonesia.
In some cases called destructive maintanance?
20 year old planes commercially used should be banned from the sky.
Considering the flying hours they are more then written off alone.

But hey, nobody will stop you from boarding one of these aircrafts.

Ehm...................... I won't for the reason of report alone.

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oyibo
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Posted @ 16-11-2008 15:35

Incidently, this report came in today to be accurate !

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HansvdB
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(Edited) Posted @ 16-11-2008 15:53


On 16-11-2008 15:33 oyibo wrote:
20 year old planes commercially used should be banned from the sky.


"The first commercial jet, the de Havilland Comet, was introduced in 1952. A few Boeing 707s, the first widely successful commercial jet, are still in service after nearly 50 years. The Boeing 727 was another widely used passenger aircraft, and the Boeing 747 was the world's biggest commercial aircraft between 1970 and 2005, when it was surpassed by the Airbus A380."




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Posted @ 16-11-2008 15:56

BTW, oyibo, you may want to read Crighton's Airframe . A pity the guy passed away recently, still relatively young.



Jeroen
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Posted @ 17-11-2008 00:27

Topic moved to English subforum.


Depends on the weather

oyibo
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Posted @ 17-11-2008 06:50

Hans,

When a fuselage shows structural damage in the window area near a bulkhead and maintenance or repairs are done to the window which obviously cracked by pressure then that is cause for serious concerns about structural integrity of the plane itself.

20 years of extensive use of an aircraft has some consequences in material fatique.
Most of these airplanes, are already used for parts. As one can see on Jakarta where a parking area is a display of dismembered MD90's. Used for parts.

I agree that one cannot judge the structural integrity of a plane or fuselage by just looking at it. And a lot can be said about the over engineering of structures in this case airplanes.

But passenger safety should be the attention. That is not solved with 20 years old air crafts where ducktape is used. Emoticon: Party!


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