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I'm a guy that is very down to earth, doesn't believe in anything like black magic but the last time things are happening that are to weird to be coincidence.
As you may know my ex has my baby and I accepted that and she almost never contacts me.
The last ime was like 3 months ago but every time my situation is bad or emotional she seem to feel exactly when that is and then contacts me for things she wants, trying to intimidate me.
I never thought of weird stuff but when I think back than this is not the first time this happens.
She doesn't know anything about my life, doesn't know any friends I have but she always seem to know when is the "best" time to contact me and trying to emotionally blackmail me.
Black magic??....
Even seeing myself question about it makes me feel ridiculous but if I analyze the situation logically it seem to fail .
Any thoughts about this?
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I have a thought; can't it just be the other way around? Your ex contacts you and soon after that you realize you feel bad at that time (whether that is correct or not) so you link that to your ex. It's not as obvious as I state it here, it's in the subtile details so you might not even know yourself what kind of tricks your mind is playing with you. No black magic needed for that, humans are complicated enough without it. 
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On 05-07-2008 14:15 Yerun wrote:
I have a thought; cant it just be the other way around? Your ex contacts you and soon after that you realize you feel bad at that time (whether that is correct or not) so you link that to your ex. Its not as obvious as I state it here, its in the subtile details so you might not even know yourself what kind of tricks your mind is playing with you. No black magic needed for that, humans are complicated enough without it.
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Well, actually it was not me that brought it up, My girlfriend is the one that noticed it and carefully mentioned about it as she knows how skeptical I am with this kind of issues. (btw, she also is quiet down to earth and pretty intelligent)
And no, its not that I have a bad situation or feel bad or emotional because she contacts me.
Its always at the time I'm already in that state
Of course its never nice to hear from her and for sure it will not help to feel myself better but the logic you mention is not the one that is correct.
Its at least weird and looks like too big a coincidence because it already happened more times before like this.
If she would call me every day I could conclude that there is always a bad day and then it would statistically be logic.
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One time my ex mentioned about a person she knew that could make me and my girlfriend suffer as much as she wanted and to be honest, my life is not really going up hill from that moment when I think back about it.
I know I know, it can be paranoia, believe me, that's the first thing I think about in situations like this, but still.
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if you are a believer, you will see! if you dont belief, you wont see!
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believing can be unconscious, same as brainwash. Maybe I do believe even i think I don't.
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Nobody has any experience like this to share or give me some advice how to find out this true or not?
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this topic is not getting any respons because people dont want to believe! so they dont even want to talk about it.
Do you live in indonesia right now btw?
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my advice wil be:
1: dont drink to much
2: dont think about the situation you THINK you are in
3: get some fysical training
4: get your vitamines
5: put the energie in a new story
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On 05-07-2008 21:29 daft_punk wrote:
my advice wil be:
1: dont drink to much
2: dont think about the situation you THINK you are in
3: get some fysical training
4: get your vitamines
5: put the energie in a new story
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wow, you are scarily right.
I know, its just sometimes very hard to do what you suggest...
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true!
But when you feel like shit, then its easy to relate it to your ex and her doom thinking.
Be good for your body and your mind wil do the rest!
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seek advive from an orang pinter , dont forget the background of yr ex.
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Nothing wrong with consulting an orang pintar .
But important thing is that you are strong by mind and that is actually sufficient to resist and counter any black-magic in any way.
I learned to accept that there are a lot of things here one cannot explain in a realistic way, but I refuse to let it go in my mind and control or affect my mind.
Like DG, when you're in an emotional (= weak and unstable) mood, then your ex (by somebody who is capable to do) can influence you.
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what is an orang pinter btw?
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its a smart man, but i what sence?
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An orang pintar is somebody like a spiritual medium.
They are mostly capable of "seeing" when somebody is in troubles.
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ic. is there lecture about these people?
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unseen matters
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hahahaha.
Oke i dont want to know then
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Thanks for the advice..
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On 06-07-2008 09:35 Yogya-Bali wrote:
Nothing wrong with consulting an orang pintar .
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maybe know a person like that inJakarta?
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No sorry, not in Jakarta. In Yogya and Bali I know some.
But definitely somebody among your Indonesian friends will know one in Jakarta. Don't feel malu to ask cause for Indonesians it is just common daily talk and nothing strange to talk about it. Just yesterday evening in Jakarta I was with a friend discussing to consult a orang pintar to solve a problem. For the Indonesians it is just one of many ways to solve a delicate problem. Just ask.
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ada alamat di jakarta .
cari dulu .
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if you really want to know a bout black magic just come visit bandung,Iyou will see clearly.
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My advice:
Forget her and seek new love.
Once a girl predicted a very bad disease for me and I would not live long.That's long ago and I feel fine,so don't listen to rubbish too much and be realistic. 
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