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AnisJ
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What did the West go East ???

  • The Silk Road ???

  • The contacts, like .... ???

  • Or this one ....... ???

  • Or are there already 'strange stories' around from Arabs,
  • Chinese or others ........ like
  • Marco Polo, there seems also some stories around in
  • 'Roman Times' about strange
  • 'sea-people' coming from the East .......'

  • and of course spices ....... like pepper, cinamon, cloves and


  • 'Ahu kura ahia, mansia nia'

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    Also in ancient India there were stories of a "golden island" where a great guru lived in a great temple (probably the burubudur).


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  • A very interesting article from the English School of Oriental and African studies in London .....


  • 'Ahu kura ahia, mansia nia'

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    Don't know, but for sure I like the 'freedom' I have here. Because many things are much cheaper I am able to travel. In that way I learn a lot to my opinion.



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  • Middle Eastern entrepreneurs in Souteast Asia, c1750-c1940

  • What do we know about INDOnesias Arabian connection ..... if it is known that the Portuguese went after the Arabian traders ....


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    the venetians contolled the import to europe of the spices. the portuguese, dutch etc didn t like havin to pay the higher prices imposed by venice and went to source

    needless to say they were gobsmacked at the profits they could realise



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    Topic moved to 'Indonesian History' on request.



    AnisJ
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    I'm still hoping there are new forummembers who know more .....


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    On 28-02-2007 11:21 exiledgooner wrote:
    the venetians contolled the import to europe of the spices. the portuguese, dutch etc didn t like havin to pay the higher prices imposed by venice and went to source

    needless to say they were gobsmacked at the profits they could realise

    Main reason the uniting of the Kingdoms of Spain and Portugese .

    2nd .The war bertween the Dutch vs Spain(Motherland) and later between Dutch and England.

    After the Portugese and the Spain there are other European countries like England , Denmark , France were in Indonesia before the Dutch.


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    Were the ancient western traders impressed by the advancement of other cultures like the various Asian and South American and African ....... for instance in South-America, I thought, the Inca-people /had a system of street lighting that was established before €uropeans made a similar system based on gas .... but also the way other cultures were handling their local administration, to make roads and bridges ..... but also 'duties' to clean and so on .... in Africa they learned how to divide cities into 'quarters' like the 'old city' of Timbuktu .....


    'Ahu kura ahia, mansia nia'


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