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This image I received in my email a few days ago. The tekst with it was partly in Indonesian and English. The image features a technician fixing an airplane with black tape before departure! The picture maker asked an expert about the use of this 'hole/hatch'. The answer is below.
The hatch is an inspection panel for part of the engine and should be secured with 4 catches, to use tape is very poor practice. There is actually no problem to the aircraft to fly without the panel, it is just streamlining and reduces drag. The danger would be when it came off, it could fly back and hit the tail doing some further damage.
If this aircraft was operated by Adam Air there are already some serious concerns about their safety practices. You should pass these photographs onto the Indonesian DGAC for them to investigate.
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For me flying in Indonesia is okay, but if they start fixing planes with tape, then I would be in doubt for sure :o
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Cokelat - Hari Merdeka.mp3
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On 26-09-2006 10:34 Yerun wrote: For me flying in Indonesia is okay, but if they start fixing planes with tape, then I would be in doubt for sure :o
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No reason for panik, this could be a normal/temporary repair method as the hatch is not a structural part of the aircraft. The aircraft can be released into service again by the Aviation Authorities for a fixed amount of flying hours before a permanent repair has to be made.
P.S. When it is taped the dispatcher/engineer probably has to check the tape after each flight again and when necessary he has to replace it.
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"Veel mensen hebben een te hoge dunk van wat ze niet zijn, en een te geringe dunk van wat ze wel zijn".
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I think it's funny that they use this repairmethod,seems a bit odd to me,but they cut down costs everywhere these days so why not ,just as long as it's checked upon.
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If a (temporary) repair method as this is used on western airliner instead of an Indonesian carrier we wouldn't have problems at all to board the aircraft.
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"Veel mensen hebben een te hoge dunk van wat ze niet zijn, en een te geringe dunk van wat ze wel zijn".
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These are some real scary stories about Adam Air:
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During last monsoon season, one Adam Air pilot has once called me asking for weather satellite pictures of Indonesia. I had asked him why and his answer was shocking. "At one stage, all of our 732s had no weather radar." Despite this, they were forced to fly into the night in areas with dense cumulus and Cumulonimbus clouds that is prevalent during monsoon season.
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Last week, the aircraft was heard radio-ing Fatmawati Tower (Bengkulu airport) asking if a pushback truck was available at the airport. The airport had no pushback trucks, so the crew asked "which runway direction would give (him) the longest distance to the taxiway intersection (next to the apron). A witness then photographed why the aircraft asked for the information, it lost its HYD A pressure resulting in no nosewheel steering.
Instead of RTB-ing, the aircraft landed and stopped in the runway, blocking it, to drop its passengers and bags. Then, it was pushed back to apron using raw muscle power.
The problem was traced to a hydraulic rubber line that had hardened and the hose had split near a pipe joint. Adam's solution? Don't replace the line, save cost by cutting the split section and connect the shortened hose to the pipe and the aircraft is then dispatched.
This weekend, the aircraft again reported problem, the left fuel flow gauge was inoperative. After a short groundstop where the engineers "opened it up and cleaned it up", if flew again with the gauge now working. However, before the flight ended, the right fuel flow gauge became inoperative. The pilot suspected that they had just "swapped the gauges". That suspicion was blown away when today it flew and then both fuel flow gauges broke down.
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Four days ago, this aircraft had a single IRS unserviceable and one of the operations officer refused to sign off the aircraft for dispatch. The management forced the aircraft to fly because it was carrying "valuable cargo." Normally, the aircraft shouldn't fly, and even if it did, it is restricted as follows:
-a Remaining IRS operates normally and is used for both attidude indications and both HSI's AND
-b flight is restricted to DAY VMC
-c all standby instruments operate normally...
-d NO autopilot
-e Must not operate in RVSM airspace
It ended up flying to Medan in IFR with autopilot and in RVSM airspace.
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With the company's emphasis on cargo, and that the ramp agent is the one supervising the cargo loading, the risk of a ramp agent to under-report the cargo weight to the flight-ops is there.
Junior Flight Operations Officers tend to accomodate these conflicts, however, not so in the right way. One aircraft was 700kg over MZFW, the FOO told the pilot that he "overloaded the aircraft" by 700kgs. Not wanting to enter a delay to offload everything, the Captain asked, "So I'll just burn off the 700kgs before take off."So after pushback it sat there burning off the 700kgs (about 15 minutes worth to lower weight. When another flight ops officer not supervising the flight saw this, he asked the ramp agent why was it doing engine run ups after pushback. The reply was "he's over MZFW by 700kgs so he's there burning the 700kgs so he'll be legal for take off."
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You still worry about a piece of speedtape
Thanks to the person who attended me on these stories.
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"Veel mensen hebben een te hoge dunk van wat ze niet zijn, en een te geringe dunk van wat ze wel zijn".
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Well, I don't have experienes like that, so when I see someone using tape, I would for sure scrath my head. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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Cokelat - Hari Merdeka.mp3
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That is the reason why I (try to) explain things in here. Pure facts... free for everybody... nothing more nothing less.
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"Veel mensen hebben een te hoge dunk van wat ze niet zijn, en een te geringe dunk van wat ze wel zijn".
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On 26-09-2006 10:34 Yerun wrote: This image I received in my email a few days ago. The tekst with it was partly in Indonesian and English. The image features a technician fixing an airplane with black tape before departure! The picture maker asked an expert about the use of this hole/hatch. The answer is below.
Click to see original image
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For me flying in Indonesia is okay, but if they start fixing planes with tape, then I would be in doubt for sure :o
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If there is telepathy ....... the week before somebody I know told me about an INDOnesian airline company that fixed there entrance door with tape too .... probably an all INDOnesian method ........
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'Ahu kura ahia, mansia nia'
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On 27-09-2006 08:53 Richy wrote: If a (temporary) repair method as this is used on western airliner instead of an Indonesian carrier we wouldnt have problems at all to board the aircraft.
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If it was a western airliner, they would have fixed the plane with tape outside the view of the passengers
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Cokelat - Hari Merdeka.mp3
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