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Please do post your comments on the above topic///

Susilo Bambang ., A retired general is now the favorite among presidential candidates,,,Does it confim that Indonesia needs a MIlitary General leader again ?


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yes time proved us that only miitaiey are capable to rule Indonesia and that Demokrasi is just dream of fool. and that megawati can never be good leader cause woman can not rule



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Democracy is not a fool, see for the better part of the world.
Women can rule, see in many countries as well.

But a military leadership doesn't have to be bad. Maybe it's a good time that a general takes power for the next 5 years to restore better law and order in Indonesia before starting full democracy.



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i agree but it was proven that it didn┤t work if avery thing restore agayn to Suharto regime all will be fine agayn just like b4
it not fool but inposible for indonesia



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TYN agrees 98%!!!!!
that 2% is that 5 years are maybe a bit short for starting full democracy...Ow and the leader must hate money for himself whahahha Emoticon: Shiny Emoticon: Shiny


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On 10-04-2004 14:28 kleinsmann wrote:
TYN agrees 98%!!!!!
that 2% is that 5 years are maybe a bit short for starting full democracy...Ow and the leader must hate money for himself whahahha Emoticon: Shiny Emoticon: Shiny

someone hating money? hard to find I gues.. Emoticon: Red face



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On 10-04-2004 14:27 budowono1 wrote:
i agree but it was proven that it didn┤t work if avery thing restore agayn to Suharto regime all will be fine agayn just like b4
it not fool but inposible for indonesia

Returning to the Suharto era? What a pity he himself is not capable anymore to rule again, seeing his present condition. No doubt, there are so many generals in the Indonesian army, that it would be no problem to find a successor (Wiranto perhaps, he showed his abilities in East-Timor, looks also quite good). And then heaven will bless the fortunate state of the republic of Indonesia. And they live happily ever after.....



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On 10-04-2004 14:28 kleinsmann wrote:
TYN agrees 98%!!!!!
that 2% is that 5 years are maybe a bit short for starting full democracy...Ow and the leader must hate money for himself whahahha Emoticon: Shiny Emoticon: Shiny


Kleinsman, you got a point there,..
but megawati tried many things to rectify, impossible!!...
during 32 years Suharto era, the whole (WHOLE=Semua=ALL=everyone)personnel/officers/adminstrtors from top generals down to Kampoeng levels worked for Suharto.....everyone belonged/supported Sukarno/Mega's father were eliminated (DELETED)!

How can Megawati fixed the whole problems in 5 years?..........She has to start from "O" .......(SHE HAD TO "FORMAT" HARD DRIVE TO START THE NEW OERATING SYSTEM...)
she is (may be the only one)with a good intention....she is just like one small spot of healthy skin in your body...... the rest of the body already infected with cancer....the whole body looks beautiful and pink/red.... And u know what?! She's become looks like a cancer in the body because she looks different......

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budowono1
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new system has no use for RI to many things gone wrone4newstart



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On 03-05-2004 13:09 budowono1 wrote:
new system has no use for RI to many things gone wrone4newstart


But the same things happened to old system...what should we do then brother budowono?



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restore Indonesia to Suharto system

cause every one was happy
no one hungry
no fight
no chaos
no religin vs religion
all perfect harmony




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On 04-05-2004 16:40 budowono1 wrote:
restore Indonesia to Suharto system

cause every one was happy
no one hungry
no fight
no chaos
no religin vs religion
all perfect harmony

This is the fact:

1. There's alot of hungry people on Suharto era, you couldn't see it because you don't live here. At that time Suharto regime don't allowed media to expose what's been happened with people. The only good things happened to my country when Suharto regime rule was the existence of law (but they usually didn't care about human rights to do that)

2. There's a lot of fight on Suharto era, once again you don't live here, that's why you couldn't see it. Suharto regime keep it tight, and they don't allowed the media to cover all the fight that's been happened. For example: Fighting between Dayak & Madura in Kalimantan Tengah, has been happen since long2 time ago but it can be covered by media after Suharto's fall.

3. No chaos, you're right but it 's only a matter of time

4. No religion vs religion? yes you're right.

5. All perfect harmony?...well...it looks like one, but actually it's like "Api dalam Sekam"



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i see every thing at that time go a look aroun you wan nasigoreng u have nasi goreng u wan soto u have soto .
peopel say hungry bull.
that is capitalis thinking i know how that time .
the Kapitalis say suharto bad but he good only Kontra Indonesia say difrence aoub his.

suharto build up RI to greater and more ellite force than even
Empire of Jepang

when Suharto Basyir didn't dare come ri couse Kontra RI get send to Boru.
No one returns from Boru.
so he good he is and yes i also met him at party at
Rumah alisha DIkin in Cibulan.
he was charming friendly old man it was long time ago i was still 7 but i remember him well




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