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wowow22
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• Posted @ 06-06-2005 00:27

I live in South America (I'm actually from Paraguay), and am deeply interested in Indonesian culture. I'd love to meet Indonesian people, learn about their country through them, and have some help in teaching me bahasa indonesia, trying to clear up some doubts. A very nice lady from Kuala Lumpur has helped me so far, but I've learned that malay is not quite the same as bahasa indonesia. I listen to hundred of Indonesian songs (I've downloaded them in MP3, and listen as much as I can---They're beautiful songs, mostly), get the lyrics and try to translate them. It's hard, though, and usually can't get them entirely translated.

If you feel like helping me, talk about your country, etc., please do... Terima kasih!

nona
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• Posted @ 06-06-2005 17:55

are you living in Holland ?

Albert
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• Posted @ 06-06-2005 21:58

On 06-06-2005 17:55 nona wrote: are you living in Holland ?

On 06-06-2005 00:27 wowow22 wrote: I live in South America (Im actually from Paraguay)

Wil je ook meester van je eigen leven zijn? http://www.goudenera.nl

JohanN
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• Posted @ 06-06-2005 22:44

I think Albert should ask for a moderator function at this forum. He is very good in keeping an eye on everyones remarks....

Begin de details te vergeten

wowow22
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• Posted @ 06-06-2005 23:08

No, nona, I live in Asunción, Paraguay. That's the capital city (about 1.5 million inhabitants) of a tiny country (speaking about its population, which is 5.5 million --- The area is 476.356 sq Km --- By South American standards, that's a small country).

Thanks, Albert. You're very perspicacious .

The point is: nona, are you able to give me some hints on bahasa indonesia?
If not, thanks for your interest, anyway .

rosetine
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• Posted @ 07-06-2005 16:23

hai wowow 22. if u really want to learn bahasa indonesia, u can came n stay in yogyakarta city. even the foreigner want to work or study bahasa indonesia, they choose yogyakarta coz it is student city. n then the live economique is chep tha another town to indonesia. it s easy to practice bahasa indonesia when u meet local peuple.
i studied in yogyakarta n now i work in this town. ok i hope that u can think about this information. best regard

Jason
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• Posted @ 08-06-2005 12:03

Hi wowow22,

I cant speak much Bahasa but I can tell you what Rosetine said is true, it is much easier to learn if you go and stay there, I understand that this may not be possible and therefore I would recommend researching around your own country to see if there are any private teachers of Bahasa, or maybe even advertise in the papers? Look into buying some books or even try some online websites to help you,
http://www.languagetechnologies.com
http://users.skynet.be/dvran/bahasa_links1.htm
http://www.geocities.com/mbordt/bahasa8c.htm
http://people.freenet.de/indonesian/
And my favorite translator site: http://www.toggletext.com/kataku_trial.php
Sorry but that’s the only advice for you I have as I too am in the same boat.

wowow22
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• Posted @ 08-06-2005 23:52

Hi, rosetine and Jason!

Thank you very much for your much helpful hints.

Of course, I'd love to spend some time in Yogyakarta... Indeed, I'm planning to travel to Indonesia in September, and stay there for around 2 months, from Sumatra to Lombok. That'll be my first trip to Indonesia, and I hope it's the first of many to come. Who knows, I'll settle in Yogyakarta later on... I'll check and see.

My first request has already been responded: Finding kind people to help me, thanks to both of you. The next step is trying to get into your recommendations (Those sites you sent me, Jason (THANKS!!!), + your hint to stick to Yogyakarta, rosetine (THANK YOU TOO!!!)).

Terima kasih to both of you!

johny251976
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• Posted @ 13-06-2005 05:59

dear friend,

If I can help you to learn Indonesian language, I would love to help you.
Jika saya dapat membantu Anda, saya akan sangat senang untuk membantu.

Regards,

WJ

wowow22
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• Posted @ 14-06-2005 17:01

Terima kasih, WJ.

Are you Indonesian? How can I contact you? Do you have Skype? May I have your e-mail address?

Sampai jumpa lagi!

johny251976
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• Posted @ 21-06-2005 03:33

dear wowow,

My email address is win_jo26yahoo.com.
By the way what is skype?
Yes, I am an Indonesian. Ya, saya orang Indonesia, dan dapat berbicara dalam bahasa Indonesia meskipun saya bukan guru bahasa Indonesia.
Semoga hari Anda menyenangkan. Sampai jumpa lagi. Senang berkenalan dengan Anda.

WJ

Mermaid
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• Posted @ 01-07-2005 10:51

Hi Wowow,

Really appreciated about your interest to learn about Indonesian language, as Indonesian, I would like to help you learning Indonesian language. Just contact my email address, would be happy to help you.

Regards,
Mermaid

mermaid_in_asiayahoo.com

AnisJ
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• (Edited) Posted @ 01-07-2005 16:21

Selamat datang seorang perempuan d. Amerika Latina,

As you probably had noticed that INDOnesian is also influenced by the Spanish and Portugese language .... words like: mesa, mortillo, bandeira, etc.
But also portugese style of music had their influences: kroncong music or gendangan ...
Anyway I wish you a lot of succes: mucias hablar INDOnesia .... !!!

Greets .... Anis.

'Ahu kura ahia, mansia nia'

hobo1
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• Posted @ 01-07-2005 18:09

I am originally from the US - now an expat in Indonesia (5 years). One problem I have encountered is the influence of "Jakarata slang" on the language. Many songs use terms that are not found in the dictionary but used frequently by the young people all over Java.

If I were you, I would spend a week or two first in a classroom to learn the basics. Then travel, trying to practice and learn as many words as you go along. Then, at the end of your stay, go back to school - or find someone who can spend some rigorous effort refining and correcting what you have learned. It is not a difficult language to learn, since most sylables are roughly equal to a Western language... and the sentence structure also follows the Western pattern. Of course to become proficient requires years of practice.
Hobo

Hideaway Bungalow in Kuta Lombok - check my homepage

johny251976
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• Posted @ 04-07-2005 04:32

dear wowow,

I think hobo gives you a fine advice.

WJ

sidik
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• (Edited) Posted @ 04-07-2005 13:54

Wowow,

I will arrive in Jakarta on 2 september. I'm originaly from Indonesia and may know some things that may come in handy. So iff you need some assistance on other matters, I would be glad to provide you with that. Besides, yo hablo Espanol tambien!

tunawisma, tunakarya, tunamasalah

AnisJ
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• Posted @ 05-07-2005 18:22

Dear Wowow or is it Heseb yth.(?),

You can start when you come to INDOnesia, to buy you yourself, a good dictionary .....
Most of the higher educated INDOnesians use the Purwodarminta dictionary of INDOnesian - English - INDOnesian, with a certificate.

Greets .... and lot of succes hablar INDOnesian .... Anis.

'Ahu kura ahia, mansia nia'

wowow22
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• Posted @ 08-07-2005 00:34

Dear Johny 251976 : Thank you very much for your offer. I'll be e-mailing you shortly; I've just been so busy that didn't have time to get in touch. Please excuse me for my delay. See you soon!

Dear Mermaid : Terima kasih! I can see you're proud of your language (Bahasa Indonesia) as people say Indonesians are. Good for you! It's a fascinating language. I'll be in touch soon.

Dear Anis J : How do you know my other e-mail address (I mean hesebyahoo.com). That's fantastic! Anyhow, besides a detective, I see you understand about Bahasa Indonesia. Yes, you have many Spanish and Portuguese words in your language (sepatu, bendera, minggu (=domingo=Sunday), and so many other), but what I found fascinating is that the word Tuhan (God), in my country's native (Indian, prehispanic) language is Tupã. It's fascinating to know such similarity, and there's no way to explain it as of yet. Anyhow, I'll be looking for the Purwodarminta dictionary. Hope to hear from you soon!

Dear hobo1 : Great hint! I'll start researching about some place that teaches Indonesian in a very professional way. I'm planning to travel to Indonesia some time in the near future, for at least two months, and am going to do exactly as you say. Great idea! On the other hand, talking about weird words not found in dictionaries. I've found the same problem trying to translate some Indo songs (Wow, what a hard task!). Well, I'll keep trying. Thank you for your response, hobo1. See you around (By the way, where in Indonesia do you live? --- Just plain curiosity).

Dear sidik : So, let's speak some Spanish, then. Dime, dónde aprendiste español? Me parece increíble que un indonesio pueda hablar mi idioma! Me gustaria saberlo... Gracias por ofrecerte a ayudarme a hablar indonesio. No me lo creerás, pero me gustaria muchísimo hablarlo. Cuando tenga dudas sobre tu país y sobre tu idioma, te la pediré. Ojalá me pudieras enviar tu dirección de e-mail (e-mail address). Gracias, amigo indonesio!

TERIMA KASIH TO ALL OF YOU!

wowow22
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• Posted @ 08-07-2005 03:45

Hey, Anis J., Saya tidak seorang perempuan, Saya seorang laki-laki.

I just forgot to tell you. See you!

johny251976
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• Posted @ 08-07-2005 06:47

Dear Wowow,

Jika kamu mengklik nama orang di forum ini, maka akan muncul jendela (window) yang menguraikan biodata singkat mereka. Saya rasa Anis mendapatkan alamat Yahoo-mu dari sana.
Saya akan menantikan emailmu.

Regards

WJ

sidik
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• Posted @ 08-07-2005 12:10

Hola Wowow,

Tengo una esposa de Medellin, por eso. Ademas, yo vivo en Holanda pero soy Indonesio de nacimiento. De todas maneras podria ayudarte porque cada ano me quedo como 6 meses en Indonesia.

Saludos!

tunawisma, tunakarya, tunamasalah

johny251976
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• Posted @ 08-07-2005 12:15

dear Sidik (and Wowow),

Care to teach me Spanish?

Regards

WJ

sidik
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• Posted @ 09-07-2005 13:00

Johny,

I'm not qualified But if you're serious, I'm sure there are possibilities in Jakarta. ( If you live in Jakarta)

tunawisma, tunakarya, tunamasalah

AnisJ
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• Posted @ 09-07-2005 13:41

W/W-22 yth.,

Yeah, I know ...... but a good excuse: "I have got to know your level of INDOnesian !!!"
Anyway ... I want to react on your reply, what you have said about the similarity of Tuhan .
On ,I think the Sumatera island, there is a temple that looks very much alike the Maya (Or Incan, I am always mixed up) temples in South-Amerika, I saw this in a tv-documentary about Sumatera.
Is this a proof what Thor Heyerdahl showed us already ???
Probably other forummembers can help me out ???

Sampai ketemu lagi, dengan banyak beruntung ajar INDOnesian.

Greets .... Anis.

'Ahu kura ahia, mansia nia'

johny251976
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• Posted @ 11-07-2005 04:27

dear Sidik,

I do live in Jakarta. Well I am commuting to work now, but in the future, I will be 'in de kos'. And what possibilities are they?

WJ


Dear Anis,

And Anis, Gee, you know very much about many things - you might have read 10 times more books than what I have read all my life until now. Have you ever read about ancient Summerian Mythe? Or Maria Magdalene Bible? I haven't.

WJ

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