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sendiri
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Hallo allemaal,

zijn er mede forum leden die ervaring hebben met het bouwen van een huis op Java? We zijn op zoek naar een goede, betrouwbare architect en aannemer. Ons huis wordt gebouwd op Midden Java.

Groet, sendiri.



havana45
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Ben je nederlander en is je partner WNI? Zijn jullie op huwelijkse voorwaarden getrouwd? Dit zijn ook zaken die je in ogenschouw moet nemen voor je begint met bouwen.



salina
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Ja, ik ben aan het bouwen in Jogjakarta Emoticon: Yes!



bulekurus
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Hangt af wat jij verstaat onder huis , interpretatie op zijn baviaan's of iets die blijft rechtstaan als het begint te beven Emoticon: Laugh out loud en wat wil je betalen per m2



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Ja hoor weer een die er in geluisd word.
Bouw nooit zelf ,,maar huur een huis is mijn levens ervaring en ik ga nu naar huis en kom terug in een nieuwe appartement kant en klaar aangekleed is boven de zee heel hoog en een lekker windje het is al aangetekend betaald ......Het gaat door.
Niet te hard roepen dat weten we in IndonesiŽ want de gekte is hier nog niet uit de mensen te krijgen................... Emoticon: Confused




Verdediging is de ruiter van kritiek--- *O* --,Het doel heiligt de middelen

sendiri
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Hallo,

Removed to prevent your adress from being spammed. Click this to go to the user profile.havana45 : deze zaken zijn allen geregeld, gaat alleen om architect en aannemer

Removed to prevent your adress from being spammed. Click this to go to the user profile.bulekurus : iets dat recht blijft staan als het gaat beven

Removed to prevent your adress from being spammed. Click this to go to the user profile. salina : mag ik je een bericht sturen op je FB pagina van je villa?

Groet, sendiri





salina
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Tuurlijk mag je een bericht sturen Emoticon: Yes!

Ziel, wat leuk, gaat het echt door? Emoticon: Party! Emoticon: Party!



pelaut
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Beste Havana 45 en allen, voor wat betreft het WNA getrouwd met WNI verhaal zijn er positieve ontwikkelingen, akte huwelijkse voorwaarden is niet meer nodig, download de Engelstalige versie van PP 103 even (government regulation 103 van 2015) en lees artikel 3. Een WNI die is getrouwd met WNA heeft nu dezelfde rechten m.b.t. onroerend goed als iedere andere WNI. Het 2e deel van dit artikel legt nog even heel duidelijk uit dat hier NIET op de constructie met akte huwelijkse voorwaarden etc. wordt gedoeld om het bezit (Hak Milik) toe te staan. Dacht dat er wel meer lezers geÔnteresseerd in deze update van de president zouden zijn vandaar deze bijdrage aan het topic.



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Pelaut, doe die tekst als het mogelijk is hier kopiŽren, ik denk dat ik weet waar het over gaat en het is voor mij niet van toepassing, maar het is voor een kaaskop die met een IndonesiŽr(sche) is getrouwd en bezittingen in IndonesiŽ heeft belangrijk.



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PAS OP ,de tekst goed lezen ( ik lees de Indonesische tekst ).
Artikel 3 is eigenlijk een verbetering van de rechten van de Indonesische partner.*
De buitenlandse partner heeft nog steeds zijn oude rechten , en dat is de HAK PAKAI.

Indonesische tekst :
ďOrang Asing dapat memiliki rumah untuk tempat tinggal atau hunian dengan Hak Pakai,Ē bunyi Pasal 2 ayat (1) PP ini.
Mooier kan ik niet maken.

* Uitleg : voorheen verliest een Indonesische man/vrouw zijn /haar rechten op onroerendgoed eigendomsrechten als ze getrouwd zijn met een buitenlander.
Dus ze zijn min of meer "benadeeld"/gehandicapt in vergelijking met andere landgenoten die onderling met elkaar trouwen( zie U.U. Pokok Agraria).
De huidige regering gaat die "rechtsongelijkheid" wijzigen.
Een WNI kan gewoon hun onroerendgoed kopen (en ERVEN= mijn eigen interpretatie ) met SHM , zonder een gang naar de Notaris te moeten doen (prenupt) .

De WNA moet ook legaal woonachtig zijn in R.I.


bisa dicek of makemyday .

pelaut
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Beste Surya, mijn bericht was alleen over het tegenwoordige voordeel (eigenlijk gecancelde nadeel) van de WNI (Indonesische partner). Ik ga me hier niet aan discussies over de WNA branden, maar het is, en blijft, inderdaad zoals je al zegt, alleen hak pakai voor de WNA met wat nieuwe regels over testament etc. (ik lees ook de Indonesische tekst).
Het ging mij erom dat de rechten van de |Indonesische partner nu zeker zijn gesteld, en er dus geen reden meer is tot ingewikkelde constructies met gelegaliseerde Hollandse aktes van huwelijkse voorwaarden (pre nub, gemaakt voor het trouwen) of akte pisah (post nub, na het trouwen)voor de Indonesische rechtbank als je onroerend goed in Indonesie op naam van de Indonesische partner hebt staan.



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Ik zal de volledige tekst hier in kopiŽren als dat lukt;



This translation is issued by the Embassy of the Republic of Indonesia in Prague for the
informative purposes only. No legal procedures can be taken regarding this translation. In case of
any divergence of interpretation of provisions of this Regulation, the Indonesian text shall
prevail.
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INDONESIAN GOVERNMENT REGULATION NO. 103/2015
INDONESIAN GOVERNMENT REGULATION
NUMBER 103 YEAR 2015
ON
OWNERSHIP OF DWELLING OF RESIDENCY HOUSE BY FOREIGN PERSONS DOMICILED IN INDONESIA
BY THE GRACE OF GOD ALMIGHTY PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF INDONESIA
considering:
a. that in order to implement the provisions of Article 42 of Law No. 5 of 1960 on the Basic
Regulation of Agrarian Principles, and to give greater legal certainty of ownership of a
residential house or dwellings by foreigners domiciled in Indonesia, Government Regulation No. 41
of 1996 on House ownership or occupancy by foreigners domiciled in Indonesia needs to be replaced;
b. Based on the considerations referred to in paragraph a, it is necessary to stipulate Government
Regulation on House ownership or occupancy by foreigners domiciled in Indonesia.
remembering:
1. Article 5 paragraph (2) of the Constitution of the Republic of Indonesia, Year 1945;

2. Law No. 5 of 1960 on the Basic Regulation of Agrarian Principles (State Gazette of the Republic
of Indonesia Year 1960 Number 104, Supplement to State Gazette of the Republic of Indonesia Number
2043);
3. Law No. 6 of 2011 on Immigration (State Gazette of the Republic of Indonesia Year 2011 Number
52, Supplement to State Gazette of the Republic of Indonesia Number
5216).


INDONESIAN GOVERNMENT REGULATION NO. 103/2015
This translation is issued by the Embassy of the Republic of Indonesia in Prague for the
informative purposes only. No legal procedures can be taken regarding this translation. In case of
any divergence of interpretation of provisions of this Regulation, the Indonesian text shall
prevail.





DECIDED:







Establishing

OWNERSHIP OF DWELLING or RESIDENCY HOUSE BY FOREIGN PERSONS DOMICILED IN INDONESIA


Article 1

This Government Regulation refers to:

1. Foreigner based in Indonesia, hereinafter called the foreigner, is a person who is not an
Indonesian citizen, who benefits, does business, works, or invests in Indonesia.
2. Single House is a house that has its own plots and no wall of the building is built right on the
boundary of the plot.
3. Apartment Unit, hereinafter referred as Sarusun, is a housing unit which is mainly used
separately with the main function being residential purpose and has a connection to a public road.


Article 2

(1) Foreigner can use a house for residence or dwelling with the Right to Use (Hak Pakai)

(2) Foreigner who may use a house mentioned in paragraph (1) is a holder of a residence permit in
Indonesia in accordance with the provisions of laws and regulations.
(3) In a case of death of foreigner, the residential or dwelling house mentioned in paragraph (2)
may be inherited.
(4) In case the heir referred to in paragraph (3) is a foreigner, the foreign heir must have
residence permit in Indonesia in accordance with the provisions of laws and regulations.


Article 3

(1) An Indonesian citizen who has married a foreigner has the same rights to the land as other
Indonesian citizens.




























































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INDONESIAN GOVERNMENT REGULATION NO. 103/2015
This translation is issued by the Embassy of the Republic of Indonesia in Prague for the
informative purposes only. No legal procedures can be taken regarding this translation. In case of
any divergence of interpretation of provisions of this Regulation, the Indonesian text shall
prevail.





(2) The rights to the land as referred to in paragraph (1), is not a joint property that is
evidenced by the separation agreement of assets between the husband and the wife, which is made by
notarial deed.


Article 4

Dwelling or residency house that is used as referred to Article 2 paragraph (1) is:

a. Single house on the ground:

1. Right to Use; or

2. The Right to Use based on Right to Own granted by an agreement giving Right to Use based on
Right to Own with Land Titles Registrar.
b. Sarusun built on plots utilized by the Right to Use.


Article 5

Foreigner is granted the Right to Use for new purchases of a Single House and the Right to Own over
Sarusun based on Right to Use for new purchases of Sarusun unit.


Article 6

(1) Single house obtained on the ground of the Right to Use as referred to Article 4 letter a,
number 1, is therefore obtained for a period of 30 (thirty) years.
(2) Right of Use as referred to paragraph (1) may be extended for a period of 20 (twenty) years.
(3) In case of the extension period as referred to paragraph (2) ends, the Right to Use can be
renewed for a period of 30 (thirty) years.




























































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INDONESIAN GOVERNMENT REGULATION NO. 103/2015
This translation is issued by the Embassy of the Republic of Indonesia in Prague for the
informative purposes only. No legal procedures can be taken regarding this translation. In case of
any divergence of interpretation of provisions of this Regulation, the Indonesian text shall
prevail.





Article 7

(1) Single house on the grounds of Right to Use which is based on agreement as referred to Article
4 letter a, number 2 is granted the Right to Use for an agreed period of no longer than 30 (thirty)
years.
(2) If the period referred to in paragraph (1) ends, the Right to Use may be extended for a maximum
period of 20 (twenty) years, as agreed with the holder of land rights.
(3) In case the extension period referred to paragraph (2) ends, the Right to Use can be renewed
for a maximum period of 30 (thirty) years according to the agreement with the holder of land
rights.


Article 8

Extension and renewal as referred to Article 6 and Article 7 is only possible when the foreigner
has valid residence permit in Indonesia.


Article 9

Agreements as referred to Article 7 shall be recorded in the land book and concerned certificates
of land rights.


Article 10

(1) When foreigner or heir who is a foreigner, who uses a house built on the grounds of the Right
to Use or on an agreement with the holders of land rights is no longer domiciled in Indonesia,
within a period of one (1) year shall release or transfer the right on the house and land to other
party which meets requirements.
(2) If within the period as referred to paragraph (1) the right on the house and the land have not
been released or transferred to other party which meets requirements:
a. house is state auctioned in case of being built on the grounds of the Right to Use on State
lands;
b. the house becomes property of the holder of land rights, in case the house was built on the
grounds under an agreement as referred to Article 4 number 1 b.




























































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INDONESIAN GOVERNMENT REGULATION NO. 103/2015
This translation is issued by the Embassy of the Republic of Indonesia in Prague for the
informative purposes only. No legal procedures can be taken regarding this translation. In case of
any divergence of interpretation of provisions of this Regulation, the Indonesian text shall
prevail.





(3) Result of the auction as referred to paragraph (2) letter a, becomes a right of the former
right holder.
(4) Further provisions about the Foreigner or heir who is a Foreigner, who is no longer domiciled
in Indonesia as referred to paragraph (1), is regulated by ministerial regulation by a government
minister who is in charge of immigration.


Article 11

Further provisions concerning the procedures for granting, release, or transfer of rights of using
a residential or dwelling house by Foreigner are regulated by ministerial regulations
/ Head of body that manages government Agrarian affairs.


Article 12

At the time this Government Regulation comes into force, Government Regulation No. 41 of 1996 on
Ownership of dwelling or residency house by Foreigner Domiciled in Indonesia (State Gazette of the
Republic of Indonesia Year 1996 Number 59, Supplement to the State Gazette of the Republic of
Indonesia Number 3644), is to be repealed and declared as not applicable.


Article 13

This Government Regulation comes into force on the date of promulgation. For public cognizance,
this Government Regulation shall be promulgated in the State Gazette of the Republic of Indonesia.


Set in Jakarta,

As of December 22, 2015 PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF INDONESIA,
Signed JOKO WIDODO




























































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INDONESIAN GOVERNMENT REGULATION NO. 103/2015
This translation is issued by the Embassy of the Republic of Indonesia in Prague for the
informative purposes only. No legal procedures can be taken regarding this translation. In case of
any divergence of interpretation of provisions of this Regulation, the Indonesian text shall
prevail.





Promulgated in Jakarta, As of December 28, 2015
MINISTER OF JUSTICE AND HUMAN RIGHTS OF THE REPUBLIC OF INDONESIA,

Signed YASONNA H. LAOLY
GAZETTE OF THE REPUBLIC OF INDONESIA YEAR 2015 NUMBER 325




























































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INDONESIAN GOVERNMENT REGULATION NO. 103/2015
This translation is issued by the Embassy of the Republic of Indonesia in Prague for the
informative purposes only. No legal procedures can be taken regarding this translation. In case of
any divergence of interpretation of provisions of this Regulation, the Indonesian text shall
prevail.





Explanation

I. GENERAL

In order to support the increasing development of cooperation of Indonesia with friendly countries,
and the growing number of foreigners working and doing business in Indonesia, resulting in
increased demand for houses and residencies for foreigners, so a policy that provides certain legal
framework and eases administration service and permit to obtain a right on the land for a
residential or dwelling house for foreigners is needed. The ease which was decided is the still
maintaining the principles of protection among others principle of nationality - that only
Indonesian citizens may have the ownership right, whereas foreigners may only be granted the right
to land in the form of Right to Use and Lease Rights. In connection with this, there is a need for
restrictions on residence or dwelling houses that will be given to the foreigners.


Article 2

Paragraph (2)

The definition of "residence permit" consists of diplomatic, official, visiting, limited and
permanent residence permits.


Paragraph (3)

The definition of "heritable" is a dwelling or residential house or the foreigner that will be
transmitted to Indonesian citizen or foreign citizen.


Article 7

Paragraph (1)

Written agreements made between foreigner and holder of land rights for the purpose of providing
legal certainty between foreigner and holder of land rights.




























































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This translation is issued by the Embassy of the Republic of Indonesia in Prague for the
informative purposes only. No legal procedures can be taken regarding this translation. In case of
any divergence of interpretation of provisions of this Regulation, the Indonesian text shall
prevail.
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INDONESIAN GOVERNMENT REGULATION NO. 103/2015
Article 10

Paragraph (2) letter a
The results of the auction are to be given to the foreigner concerned after deducting the cost of
the auction as well as other costs that have been incurred.
Translated in Prague, 15 April 2016




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On 05-08-2016 05:43 bulekurus wrote:
Hangt af wat jij verstaat onder huis , interpretatie op zijn baviaan's of iets die blijft rechtstaan als het begint te beven Emoticon: Laugh out loud en wat wil je betalen per m2


http://www.lensarumah.com/daft(...)arga-bahan-bangunan/
De keuze van aannemer is vaak gebaseerd op vertrouwen, recomendatie van vrienden of medelanders.
Zelfs dat kan ook mis gaan.

Kosten van vaklui : http://hargabahanbangunan.co/h(...)tukang-bangunan.html

Mijn broer heeft zijn eigen huis in centrum van Jakarta in "eigen beheer" laten bouwen , eigen architect, eigen tukang ( 750m2 gebouw).
Dacht tussen 4.5-5 miljoen rupiah per meter.


bisa dicek of makemyday .


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