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"Bule" has negative meaning only when a negative word attached to it , as in " Bule tolol" (stupid bule)



stijn
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It's all about the context Bule is used. I call my self Bule. Have no problem with it. When I was travelling in Indonesia last year children in the villages but also adults keep saying Bule masuk kampung and started laughing. Sometimes it was tyring. I saw an episode of that series. The Bule of that TV series was pretty stupid I guess. Stereotypes are always used to make fun of the other. If you have a sense of humor, just don't bother about it . If you don't see the humor of it, maybe you`re insulted.

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I would prefer "bule" over the infamous "miss" any time.



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Nope.. Bule is just friendly way to call white peoples. So it's not a big deal if anybody call white man/girl Bule. Nothing personal about it at all.

also it doesn't mean Dutch Bull He.hehe. ( as Ali Akbar mention on forum )



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In Bali this phrase is seldomly used. Foreighners is Bali are called: Turis


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On 09-03-2008 19:50 Nemesis wrote:
In Bali this phrase is seldomly used. Foreighners is Bali are called: Turis


Yes, "orang turis" is my conclusion too !


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The origins of the word are racist, but over time it has become a mere 'call' for people that they see as caucasian. The same as what happened with 'nigger', which has become a normal word to use for the African-American population among eachother, while it is of racist origin as well.

I don't care too much, but that is mainly because I don't have to have anything from most people that call me that (which often happens in the streets) so I can pass them without giving any reply. 'Mister' is fine with me, but 'mas' or 'bang' are the polite forms of calling me if you need me and you don't know who I am, just like an Indonesian indeed.



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For Yerun:
Sorry ..it is little bit out of topic.
the word " nigger" is still sensitive here in US.

That's all... carry on !!!




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Sensitive for sure, but among certain groups (i.e. 'themselves') not anymore right? Or at least less so?



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It is negative. Just think about where it's used and how. Even if there is no intention of negativity it still has a negative impact. It's like wop, spik, nip, or even nigger as in the East Indian niggers. It doesn't matter if the person using it doesn't have negative intentions, it's still a way of labeling somebody.
It's never used in a formal setting, nor in the office. Why? Because it isn't polite.
When I go out with my friends from around Asia, they're "Orang Jepang", "Orang Korea", "Orang Java", "Orang Cina", etc. And I'm just "Bule"? What the heck is that? Is there a "Negara Bule"?



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  • The origin of the word bule is also caused by Europereans themselves,
    for the ' link' is always laid between the symbolism of ' white Supremacy ', in colonial times 'whites' consider' people(s) of INDOnesian origin/inlanders' as inferior ...... besides they want to stay in power and want to keep things running in their 'system' : white at the top and 'dark coloured' beneath ... some remains of ' white supremacy' are stille easy to be found untill today ....
  • Practical examples are for instance the comercials of soap that are always represented by a ' white European' girl, the suggestion is clear: Europeans are cleaner than 'dark couloured people' ........



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    On 23-03-2008 14:22 AnisJ wrote:
  • The origin of the word bule is also caused by Europereans themselves,
    for the link is always laid between the symbolism of white Supremacy , in colonial times whites consider people(s) of INDOnesian origin/inlanders as inferior ...... besides they want to stay in power and want to keep things running in their system : white at the top and dark coloured beneath ... some remains of white supremacy are stille easy to be found untill today ....


  • Well Anis, wait untill u show up in Indonesia. They will call u also bule although probably u don't have a white skin. From far people can see that u (although ur parents are from Maluku) are not born in Indonesia and that u are a foreigner. Bule is more and more often used as an expresion used for foreigners.
    A Javanese and a Moluccan friend of mine (Dutch citizens) are also called bule although their skin is probably more black then the skin of the average Indonesian. What's in a name?!

    And this talk about socalled white supremacy: that's Dutch social academy talk from the 80-ties that is not functioning over here. Like I said, u are a foreigner, a bule, whether u're black, brown, yellow or white.



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    On 24-03-2008 02:12 Yogya-Bali wrote:

  • Well Anis, wait untill u show up in Indonesia. They will call u also bule although probably u dont have a white skin. From far people can see that u (although ur parents are from Maluku) are not born in Indonesia and that u are a foreigner. Bule is more and more often used as an expresion used for foreigners.
  • A Javanese and a Moluccan friend of mine (Dutch citizens) are also called bule although their skin is probably more black then the skin of the average Indonesian. Whats in a name?!

  • And this talk about socalled white supremacy: thats Dutch social academy talk from the 80-ties that is not functioning over here. Like I said, u are a foreigner, a bule, whether ure black, brown, yellow or white.


  • But still if ..... the origin of the word is the same ...... of colonial times, accept nowadays INDOnesians change its meaning ....... Emoticon: Yes! Emoticon: Yes!
  • I h'd been on hollidays to Maluku/INDOSnesos they called me no 'bule' for I did show my Moluccan origin also by socialising as much as possible ... also by being 'modest' ....... Emoticon: Shiny Emoticon: Shiny Emoticon: Yes! Emoticon: Yes!


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    Yogya-Bali
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    Maybe in Maluku not but my Moluccan friends from Holland are called bule in Bali, Jakarta and on Jawa. And that has nothing to do with socialising, it's just that an Indonesian can see that you're not from here.



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  • By the way, in Papua they used to call me mister .... Emoticon: Shiny Emoticon: Shiny

  • Whites are called 'orang barat' ..... that is the Papuan way , I guess ......



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