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Desi Clark
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Hello All,

Question:

Does the Netherland recognize dual citizenships? If yes, what is the benefits?

Let me know your thought please.

Thank you
Desi Clark


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lopulisa
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Hello Desi,
In reply t o your question, dual citizenship is allowed by the Dutch Government, no problems about that but about your 2nd question....
no, you won't have any favours or profits concerning the Netherlands, cause this country is 'stable' in every sense of the word......wow (=with other words), you still have to pay taxes etc while living here in Holland, you won't be excluded to certain taxes as e.g. VAT (= btw) or property tax (=onroerend goed belasting).
It's nice to be in the possession on 2 passports but it's more worth to the country where that passport belongs to.
I might be wrong but this is what as far as my knowledge informs me concerning international law.
Margie Lopulisa


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Kruyfie
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I just read it today in www
that CDA opposes the dual nationality, claiming that it hinders intergration

you can check the news :
www.expatica.com/source/site_a(...)l_id=1&story_id=4164



shuisheng
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maybe dutch gov eccep but RI still not eccept.




bangwin
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how do you know?...you're not RI anyway.....hehehe....



Desi Clark
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Hi Shui Sheng.... do you think someday RI will recognize dual citizenship or this is imposible?

Well I learn the word nothing is imposible.. he he he

Dual Citizenship is something that we (mixed couple --> Indonesian married to Foreigner) are fighting for.. wish us luck!


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diederick
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I hate to say it, but I guess Shuisheng is right. Indonesia does not accept dual nationality. There are quite a few number of countries in the world which do not accept dual citizenships. Especially countries with a nationalist state culture (and off course we would not be accused of that in the Netherlands!). So if you originate from those countries your other nationality does not have any validity there. And I presume that it is even not seen as a positive thing (treason?).
Off course dual nationality has a lot of advantages. My son, although one and a half years old, has two passports, two different names, will be entitled to two national pensionplans (if they exist then still, i guess not), can be a resident of either country, can buy property etc. etc. A pity that I cannot get another nationality. I will propose to the Dutch government that all citizens can choose a second nationality to their liking!



budowono1
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yeah it is consittered to be treason.
althaugh manny people have it's officialy forbithen cause if RI find out they say chose Indonesia atau belanda.
cause it is according to law not allowed but ectualy quite logic how can one have 2 nationality a person also has 1 identaty so why have two it is inlogical



diederick
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Dear Budowono1 (are there others?)

What do you think of the fact that people who were born in Indonesia and lived their all their lives, are -until now- not entitled to Indonesian citizenship? You know which people I mean. In a way you are related to them.
I think in some ways dual citizenship can be a motor of more understanding between people, as you are rooted in two cultures and make it work. Don't you think so?



budowono1
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yes but it not allowed go ask diatas imigrasi if don beleef go to Tobias asserlaan 8 and ask at ambasey or jl cikini-raya
you see it nice thaught but not allowed


dual citizenship can be a motor of more understanding between people, as you are rooted in two cultures and make it work. Dont you think so?




diederick
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I know that Indonesia is not supporting dual citizenship. That is a pity, but difficult to change. But it is nice to know you support the idea anyway!



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As far as I know, Dutch government no longer supports dual citizenships anymore. I've heard that this is a new law, can someone confirm this ... ?! Emoticon: Nice


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diederick
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No that is not (completely) true. There are some political parties in the Dutch parliament which are in favour of abolishing this possibility, which by the way is quite recent, because they think it hinders the integration of immigrants (dual loyality and that kind of thing). Their plan is that the immigrant after a certain time has to choose one nationality. It is the question if these plans will come to something, and if so, it will still take years for any law to come in effect. Finally it will only apply to new cases, I think.




shuisheng
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= edit =



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Law regarding dual citizenship are quite complicated and are different in different countries so one must be clear about laws otherwise one could land in troubles and should have could legal adviser to go through whole process easily and comfortably.



sukadi46
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If you want to know about dual citinzship go and visit this site
http://www.petisidkindonesia.c(...)araan-di-indonesia/.




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